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Jahia, jBPM, collaborative modeling and adaptive case management platform

by  ampieb »  2014/03/11 15:25

I'm not sure whether this is the right forum but I would like to test the water about an idea for a case management system we have been playing with for a while.

We at Ifu Lobuntu http://www.ifu-lobuntu.org  (under construction) want to establish a collaborative online platform where users can model, deploy and execute adaptive cases (CMMN), domain models (UML) and measurement models (VDML). We were thinking of integrating quite deeply with a social "oriented" WCMS system, and currently Jahia is our preferred platform. We are particularly excited about the jBPM 6.X integration and task management, and the use of OSGi and Hibernate 4.X, SCM and Maven integration.

So far so good. We've got some nice possibilities here. We are hoping to implement diagrams merely as templates and introduce content types representing modeling elements. That way we can leverage the security and social/collaborative facilities (comments, polls, process flow, etc) already in Jahia. We are thinking of plugging into Jahia Studio and allowing the various models to be transformed to OSGi bundles/ modules containing Java, and other artifacts supporting the case model, which we will integrate with jBPM. We can leverage your SCM and Maven integration to compile and deploy such models dynamically, introducing new processes as required by the business. We also want to blur the boundaries between structured and unstructured content and tightly integrate both with processes and cases.

So firstly, does this sound like something interesting/worthwile/viable?

Secondly,  we would like to know exactly how committed Jahia is to open source. The viral GPL license is a bit limiting but we can live with that. The access to the source is great but the fact that it is only hosted on Jahia and not on say Github or Sourceforge is a point of concern. Will Jahia continue to be released under the GPL license in future version? Will the source code be available indefinitely? If we do embark on this project, we will be immensely dependent on Jahia and we need to be sure we won't have the rug pulled out from underneath us.

You input is much appreciated

Ampie

 

 

 

  • Jahia, jBPM, collaborative modeling and adaptive case management platform
    2014/03/11 15:34

    ampieb <p> I&#39;m not sure whether this is the right forum but I would like to test the water about an idea for a case management system we have been playing with for a while.</p> <p> We at Ifu Lobuntu <a href="http://www.ifu-lobuntu.org">http://www.ifu-lobuntu.org</a>&nbsp; (under construction) want to establish a collaborative online platform where users can model, deploy and execute adaptive cases (CMMN), domain models (UML) and measurement models (VDML). We were thinking of integrating quite deeply with a social &quot;oriented&quot; WCMS system, and currently Jahia is our preferred platform. We are particularly excited about the jBPM 6.X integration and task management, and the use of OSGi and Hibernate 4.X, SCM and Maven integration.</p> <p> So far so good. We&#39;ve got some nice possibilities here. We are hoping to implement diagrams merely as templates and introduce content types representing modeling elements. That way we can leverage the security and social/collaborative facilities (comments, polls, process flow, etc) already in Jahia. We are thinking of plugging into Jahia Studio and allowing the various models to be transformed to OSGi bundles/ modules containing Java, and other artifacts supporting the case model, which we will integrate with jBPM. We can leverage your SCM and Maven integration to compile and deploy such models dynamically, introducing new processes as required by the business. We also want to blur the boundaries between structured and unstructured content and tightly integrate both with processes and cases.</p> <p> So firstly, does this sound like something interesting/worthwile/viable?</p> <p> Secondly,&nbsp; we would like to know exactly how committed Jahia is to open source. The viral GPL license is a bit limiting but we can live with that. The access to the source is great but the fact that it is only hosted on Jahia and not on say Github or Sourceforge is a point of concern. Will Jahia continue to be released under the GPL license in future version? Will the source code be available indefinitely? If we do embark on this project, we will be immensely dependent on Jahia and we need to be sure we won&#39;t have the rug pulled out from underneath us.</p> <p> You input is much appreciated</p> <p> Ampie</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> &nbsp;</p> <p> &nbsp;</p>

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    Re: Jahia, jBPM, collaborative modeling and adaptive case management platform

    by  shuber »  2014/04/08 12:05

    Hello Ampie, 

    That doesn't only sound interesting, it's quite fascinating actually. I think you have a very good understanding of our current platform and I think that it would be a good fit for Jahia. We are especially interested in people using the system as a platform to build powerful solutions on top of the product, and yours looks like such a development.

    For your concerns about Open Source, rest assured that we are *very* committed to Open Source. I base this mostly on our history. Jahia is a company that is now over 10 years old and we have always provided an open source version of the product, although the license has changed from a proprietary one to the GPL. We have even been toying with the idea of going to more liberal licenses such as Apache License but we're not ready for that (yet).

    Concerning the source repository, we are also committed to making it constantly available, but you may of course mirror the GPL licensed code anywhere, provided you respect the GPL terms :). We have a lot of our new code now available on Github (most new Jahia modules are hosted there now), and maybe one day we will move the core there, but that's a big infrastructure work so it won't happen soon, unless there's a strong demand for it :)

    We of course welcome all contributions, and please keep us informed of your projects. Feel free to contribute any modules you want to share on our Jahia Public AppStore, that will make any modules you develop available to all Jahia Digital Factory 7 users ! You can find it here : http://store.jahia.com/sites/private-app-store/home.html

    Best regards,

      Serge Huber.

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    Re: Re: Jahia, jBPM, collaborative modeling and adaptive case management platform

    by  ampieb »  2014/04/20 09:22

    Hi Serge,

    Thanks for the feedback. Jahia's stance on Open Source is very reassuring. Since my original post I did discover your github repositories which is great. I must also add that of all the Java based open source CMS systems I have investigated, Jahia is the one that packs the most features into its Open Source edition.

    We have commenced development on a CMMN extension of jBPM which listens to JCR repository events (https://github.com/ifu-lobuntu/pavanecce).  This should position us well to then integrate with Jahia's workflow subsystem and JCR architecture. The moment we have something more concrete to offer we will register it in the app store.

    Keep well

    Ampie

     

  • Re: Re: Jahia, jBPM, collaborative modeling and adaptive case management platform
    2014/04/20 09:22

    ampieb <p> Hi Serge,</p> <p> Thanks for the feedback. Jahia&#39;s stance on Open Source is very reassuring. Since my original post I did discover your github repositories which is great. I must also add that of all the Java based open source CMS systems I have investigated, Jahia is the one that packs the most features into its Open Source edition.</p> <p> We have commenced development on a CMMN extension of jBPM which listens to JCR repository events (<a href="https://github.com/ifu-lobuntu/pavanecce">https://github.com/ifu-lobuntu/pavanecce</a>).&nbsp; This should position us well to then integrate with Jahia&#39;s workflow subsystem and JCR architecture. The moment we have something more concrete to offer we will register it in the app store.</p> <p> Keep well</p> <p> Ampie</p> <p> &nbsp;</p>

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    JBPM remote api with kerberos

    by  bargavi2307@gmail.com »  2018/07/01 03:58

    A customer of ours wants to use .NET to do integration with JBPM remote API's. They are using Windows/Kerberos for all Authentication. From what I read around looks like JBPM remote API supports only Basic Auth.

    Is it possible to use JBPM remote API with kerberos ?

      (bargavi2307@gmail.com)

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